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Move logs: Beyoncé Knowles
Beyoncé

Discussions:

Beyoncé Knowles → Beyoncé, No consensus, 21 September 2007, discussion
Beyoncé Knowles → Beyoncé, No consensus, 20 March 2010, discussion
Beyoncé Knowles → Beyoncé, No consensus, 11 July 2010, discussion
Beyoncé Knowles → Beyoncé, No consensus, 7 August 2011, discussion
Beyoncé Knowles → Beyoncé, Not moved, 23 February 2012, discussion
Beyoncé Knowles → Beyoncé, Not moved, 3 February 2013, discussion
Beyoncé Knowles → Beyoncé, Not moved (speedily closed), 20 March 2013, discussion
Beyoncé Knowles → Beyoncé, Moved, 16 January 2014, discussion

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Infobox image choice

Option A
Option B
Option C
Option D
Option F
Option G

There has been some disagreement over the infobox image, so there should be a discussion to decide on which one to use. It appears that there is a consensus to use one of the images in the Commons category at [1]. The gallery above contains some choices that I have seen used, or that I think are otherwise suitable. Post your opinion below, and please add any potential candidates that I missed. — Goszei (talk) 01:34, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

C > A > G > D > F > B. An ideal image would have her facing the camera, have no obstruction from a microphone, and a smile or neutral expression instead of an open mouth. C is the closest to this ideal, in my opinion. A or G are a close second and third, with a preference for A due to a slightly favorable composition and expression. D has an unfavorable hand pose, and F isn't head-on. B is the worst on all counts, completely unflattering in my opinion. — Goszei (talk) 01:38, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Out of these options, B or G are the only ones acceptable to me imo. But imo lighting wise her best picture is this one. It's the most flattering and has the best lighting on her face.

PHShanghai | they/them (talk) 14:22, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What do we think of this one? Facing the camera, unobscured, and more flattering than the other options in my opinion.

– Breaktheicees (talk) 15:27, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I love this one! Preferably the second option, I feel like the crop is just right and just flattering enough for her. Also the outfit that she has wearing here is very iconic and it screams Renaissance tour PHShanghai | they/them (talk) 05:01, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I support this one as well. — Goszei (talk) 03:37, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Favourites are A and G. I very much dislike B due to the dancers around her (they're distracting and clutter the image, subjects should be alone per MOS:IMAGEQUALITY) and dislike this one due to the low quality. These were ironically the two that editors would continuously reinstate for whatever reason.

G's background is admittedly busy but it does show the entirety of the face unlike A. I would be happy with either, or indeed any image other than the two I've raised problems with. Miklogfeather (talk) 22:44, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2025

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Beyoncé is a singer not a singer-songwriter in the traditional sense. Songwriters write the majority of songs they sing, either alone or with a small team of other writers. Beyoncé has writing credits on her songs but they are written by 10-20+ writers. Just “singer” is more accurate. 2A02:FE1:D07A:5700:9C49:DC66:13B9:89D6 (talk) 15:40, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. She won several Grammy Awards for songwriting, which makes her famous as a songwriter. NationalWorld magazine wrote about her songwriting style, supporting her as a primary songwriter despite the many others involved. Beyoncé was listed as the top songwriter in Nashville for one week in March–April 2024. American Songwriter published a piece listing three songs Beyoncé wrote for others to sing. That, my friend, is a songwriter. Binksternet (talk) 16:29, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, the change from "singer, songwriter, etc" to "singer-songwriter" was made less than a month ago with no previous discussion [2]. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 16:43, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

Change "In April 2011, Beyoncé and Jay-Z traveled to Paris to shoot the album cover for 4, where she unexpectedly became pregnant" to "In April 2011, Beyoncé shot the album cover for 4 in Paris, where she unexpectedly became pregnant." I don't want to exclude Jay, but the syntax of the original sentence is messing with me . 2600:1702:2A40:B10:1DF4:B49D:8868:AFC6 (talk) 20:03, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ancestry edit war

An editor by the name of Everm4e is consistently trying to add back an completely unneeded part of information from the Early life section relating to Beyonce's ancestry. I am trying to remove it because most of these people aren't notable at all (WP:BLPNAME). I was happy to keep a bit of to keep a bit of her ancestry in the article, but no, seems that per this editor we need to keep this gigantic paragraph of information in this already far too long article (14,000 words) in the article because of "its factual basis and relevance" (despite it not be relating to Beyonce's early life, which is what the section is supposed to be about). So, what do you editors think of this? 750 h+ 02:17, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, it was also recommended in the Good article reassessment by SNUGGUMS that the 'early life' section "goes into excessive details about heritage. We could just stick to a general summary where her ancestors came from, and maybe mention some relatives outside of her sister and their parents who have articles." 750 h+ 02:18, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're misusing WP:BLPNAME when that doesn't apply to relatives who are deceased. It also shouldn't be treated as a free pass to remove details that one personally doesn't like seeing. The more relevant reason to remove is actually because of not relating to Ms. Knowles's early life. This isn't supposed to be a page on her extended ancestors per WP:NOTGENEALOGY. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:16, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]